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EVERY other business is not restricted? Market Stalls are, for one.

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I suspect market stalls only have a certain area to set up in, unlike Taxis which are unenclosed... oh and before you go on about Ranks Edinburgh has an extra 500 ph they didn't have 5 years ago and they don't need ranks to provide the same service or to take your business.

The whole thing is a con and anyone mad enough to pay £50,000 deserves to lose it.

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i was thinking of turning my garage at the side of my house into a bar/nightclub.in your world i would get a licence no bother after that became a roaring success i would re-invest the profits into some storage tanks for my front garden so that i could sell fuel,then after i had seen off shell/esso/bp i would get a licence to do brain surgery(these FFing doctors have had a closed shop for too long) then i would apply for a tv-licence, a dog licence and then finally a licence to print money!

Diesel you must be sh**** yourself don't wait till it's too late, sell.

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Diesel it's very disapppointing that you wrote this drivel.

I know you're not thick, just a guy trying to do his best. But uttering this tripe doesn't help.

All of the licence types you outline are restricted. Yes. But not for basic numerical reasons. But they are restricted for other reasons, particularly health and safety.

You could get a licence to establish business in any one of these market sectors, provided the location was right and you have the appropriate skills to practise. Taxis have no specific location, nor do they require one. And drivers already have the skills.

And, in none of them, does the council seek to restrict numbers artificially so that some privileged few can accrue a nest egg and use the scarcity value to hike rentals. To work a scam. Apart from corruption and self interest, why are taxi licences allowed to be traded in this way. Go on, you tell me. No one else dares to. Now, I wonder why?

What I just don't get is why you guys think the council, who are pathetic at just about every thing (the camel is just a horse designed by a committee syndrome) can organise your affairs better than you and the market can do.

Taxis are restricted, PH are mushrooming. Income is falling, already being diluted. End of ...

So tell me JasBarTay how you arrive at the conclusion that taxi numbers are restricted for basic numeric reasons? Most sane people realise that they ARE restricted for the safety of the public by permitting stringent licensing conditions to be met by operators amongst other reasons. They are most definitely NOT restricted just for the sake of having X number of taxis.
As for taxis having no specific location, they do; it's the area for which they are licensed. So like other licensed businesses, "provided the location was right and you have the appropriate skills to practise." Pick a licensed area which is right, get the appropriate skills and you too could have a taxi licence!!!
There is no artificiality about number restriction - It's either there (really) or it's not!
Whot you don't get is reality. You are well known for your dislike of Edinburgh Council and unfortunately keep allowing this hatred to cloud your opinion of everything. Is there an alternative to councils? It is a common saying that if you put 10 taxi drivers in the same room you'll get 11 opinions. This might be a problem were they to replace councils.
PH are exploiting a loophole and trying to take over the taxi market, would your efforts not be better targetted towards fighting them rather than trying to help them destroy the business you claim to work in?
As for Diesel, all he's doing is telling what your infantile rantings if true would produce.

Jasbar goes on at great lengths to say that the only licenses that are restricted and traded are taxi licenses.

So what is his position of the selling of a casino complete with license, as the council restrict those, and then what do you know, the casino is re-located.

Or pub licenses in a particular area - lets say the Grassmarket - where the council restrict those, and the pub and license is sold and the pub re-located.

Or a pharmacy dispensing license where the numbers are restricted by the NHS, and a pharmacy is sold and the dispensing license is magically transferred to one of the large chemists chains or major supermarkets.

The restrictions are there for a reason, and not just in the taxi trade.

If all of this corruption was really happening, why Jim Clouseau haven't you uncovered it. Rather than banging on about plate values why aren't you out there uncovering all of those crimes

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Let's get one thing straight, Licence is spelled Licence, with two "C"'s.

Casinos and pubs when they change hands, then a new licence application is made. The council automatically grants the licence if there is no police objection to either the conduct of the business or the new licensee.

These licences are not traded. Nor are they allowed to accrue an artificial value.

As I said before, though the witless can't understand it, is that taxis, unlike fixed premises businesses, aren't restricted to conducting business in a particular zone within the licensing area. In the case of PH they can even operate legitimately outwith their own licensing area - limos the case in point.

There is no reason to restrict taxi licences other than to bolster the artificial plate values and high rentals.

The corrruption, whether actual or anecdotal, exists because servile sheep like you allow it to. In fact, you actually want it to. You depend on it. Because its always been and you wouldn't have a clue how you'd exist without it.

The TCs of this world cling to the status quo like toddlers to a sookie rag.

Time to grow up TC. Time to join the big boys.

I would suggest you suck and see de-restriction. But I guess you got all the sucking you need already.

There doesn't have to be an alternative to councils, other than councils that actually do the bidding of the electorate.

I have nothing against councils per se, just this new labour fascist one.

There's not a single councillor elected to CEC who gained any more than one in six of the electorate to vote for them. 5 out of six electors did not vote for their councillor. Quite a democracy we live in isn't it.

And, its not just the taxi trade which suffers, we've experienced failings in every department form social work (incompetence costs lives), Finance (can't even collect council tax, nor pay benefits properly), Transport (gross waste of taxpayers cash on sham consultations), Environment (Can't even organisation proper refuse collections), the list is endless for a failing council where the elected officials continually fail to hold unelected to account for their failings.

We've even recently seen the disgraceful Shami Khan play the race card because, once again, his family couldn't stop itself falling foul of the law.

Until this nonsense is sorted, I will continue to criticise, as does just about every one else who has the wit to know what they're up to and cares about it.

The reason trade is so bad can assuredly be laid primarily at the council's door. If you can't see this, then you are a fool.

As for infantile rantings. Really.

Take a look at your ravings, then look at mine. If you think your imbecilic meanderings are God's gift to reason and logic, then it only goes to show that you don't have to be bright to be a cabby? And, that's probably why we're in the mire.

Well Jimmy you would know all about the "two "C"'s" as that's the name given to you and Slapheid. But, the word license can be spelt either way, but as ever you can't be wrong, even when the dictionary says so.

As for "got all the sucking " well you'll know more about that than me, seeing as it's you that spends so much time at the "two "C"'s" in the company of many of Edinburgh's homosexual community

Casino licenses have been traded in the past - Stanley Leisure, didn't just apply for those licenses, they bought the businesses that held them and then re-locatd them, much as they are about to do with the Berkeley Casino at Rutland Place when it's re-located to Fountain Park. The old casino above The Wine Glass (I'm a bit young so can't remember it's name ) was bought, closed and it's license re-located to new premises by the new owners.

You also chose to ignore the NHS pharmacy licenses - how convenient, because, those facts don't fit your argument

BTW - did you notice that one of the spelling choices in the spell checker for jasbar was "gasbag" - does the programmer know you

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Well Jimmy you would know all about the "two "C"'s" as that's the name given to you and Slapheid. But, the word license can be spelt either way, but as ever you can't be wrong, even when the dictionary says so.

As for "got all the sucking " well you'll know more about that than me, seeing as it's you that spends so much time at the "two "C"'s" in the company of many of Edinburgh's homosexual community

Casino licenses have been traded in the past - Stanley Leisure, didn't just apply for those licenses, they bought the businesses that held them and then re-located them, much as they are about to do with the Berkeley Casino at Rutland Place when it's re-located to Fountain Park. The old casino above The Wine Glass (I'm a bit young so can't remember it's name ) was bought, closed and it's license re-located to new premises by the new owners.

You also chose to ignore the NHS pharmacy licenses - how convenient, because, those facts don't fit your argument

BTW - did you notice that one of the spelling choices in the spell checker for jasbar was "gasbag" - does the programmer know you

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torncasualty wrote



It was called the Martell

Ah The Martell, or The Stanley Martell as it became known, when bought by Stanley Leisure, who needed a casino license for their bigger better brighter location down at Cascades in Leith.


Of course, Stanley only bought The Martell for the intrinsic value of the business, not for the license at all.

And as it's just been concluded that Edinburgh doesn't need any more casinos, it's bye bye Berkeley, hello new bigger better brighter Stanley Fountainpark.

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Yes dickhead, license as a noun is the American spelling. License in English is a verb.

"As for "got all the sucking " well you'll know more about that than me, seeing as it's you that spends so much time at the "two "C"'s" in the company of many of Edinburgh's homosexual community"

This does little more than debase you thicko. Not only are you seeking to slander me, you're suggesting that the homosexual community is somehow of a lower standard than you. I think you'll find that we have discrimination laws against this. I also feel that someone which such homophobic views should certainly not be driving a taxi and I take the deepest objection to your views.

I will therefore be drawing the matter to the attention of the council to investigate the matter and would remind you that there is no anonymity on the web. Your IP address will have been highlighted and can be sought for further investigation by the constabulary.

I would also advise you, although I don't know why I should, that all public licences are held by individual licensees. When such a licence changes hands, although the business may be owned by a corporation, the new individual licensee makes application and the licence is granted, or refused if there is a specific council or police objection, whereupon a new individual licensee is put forward.

At no time is a licence transferred from one licensee to another. They are not transferable, as clearly stated in the Act, nor are they allowed to accrue any value, far less an enhanced scarcity value because of artificial council limitations as with taxi licences.

Practice holding your hands out TC. You'll then be prepared to receive the cuffs.

I have to advise you that you don't have to say anything, but whatever you do say will be taken down and may be used in evidence .....

Nice one, you juvenile welt.

As ever Gasbag you just can't resist.

I resent the comment YOU make regarding the homosexual community. You are obviously the one with the deep seated homophobic views that you project them onto others. Exactly where did I suggest that the homosexual community is "somehow of a lower standard" (other than mentioning them in the same posting as you and yer wee mate) - YOU are the one who has suggested that by suggesting that I have somehow slandered you, and as is usual with you, you hope that by putting words in my mouth you will somehow turn those you see as your opposition into the bad guys. Do you really expect the council to take YOU seriously - you're having a laugh Be careful you really are, every day looking like a perfect candidate for sectioning.

As for the license debate - the license is worth nothing, yet an establishment such as The Martell suddenly acquires a value in excess of it's value if it didn't have the casino license. Taxi plates have no value either, but the business that holds them acquires a value because of the license. But as ever gasbag, it doesn't fit in with your argument so it must be wrong. And the pharmacy license point is avoided altogether The whole point of my casino story ws that you stated that taxi licenses with an artificial value, and I proved you wrong

You're the one that should be holding out their hands, if not for your wild claims of state fascism, or unsubstantiated claims of corrupt councils, then at least for the men with white coats who will give you nice drugs and help you get better

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