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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:19 pm 
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There is a danger of you lot talking yourselves into a recession.

That is an interesting point, and I sort of share that view. In the same way as the most miserable drivers seem to always earn the least.

Maybe we will all just have to work a few hours longer to meet our bills. Thankfully we have that option.

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Maybe we will all just have to work a few hours longer to meet our bills. Thankfully we have that option.


Some down here don't!!! I know quite a few drivers who already work anything up to 18 hrs a day. :shock:

If I ever got anywhere near that situation it would be time to look for another job.


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Some down here don't!!! I know quite a few drivers who already work anything up to 18 hrs a day. :shock:

Maybe those folks then need to wake up and live within their means. :?

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The brain dead aspect of the argument comes from you Mr Skull.

Firstly, I represented the trade, and delivered what I was asked to by the people who elected me ....................... I have not done that for some time.

Secondly, are you really so stupid to not understand that the people renting the vehicles are doing so to people who can't afford or obtain a plate of their own. If every driver was given a plate I would imagine that they'd have to buy a vehicle, not everyone can do that for many different reasons.

You then go into a rant about recession and then encourage people to go into debt to get their own cab ............................. I say rent off those who have the financial risk and then when the economic climate is better, or indded if the economy ever recovers, come back and try and make an argument.

Do you still not mind paying more for a premium service or waiting in a queue to get it?

I though I saw your name on a loaf of bread the other day ................ but then I realised it actually said Thick CUT.

B. Lucky :D :D :D :D


What a Dummy you are GA.
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The driver is in debt to the owner by paying a rental in an attempt to secure his employment. This costs him more than it would to own and operate his own vehicle. He works the hours to suite the owner. His private car is another cost added to his working arrangement. The driver can't pick an choose his own hours or the security of his employment. He is totally at the mercy of the owner and his little illusion.

No wonder they dumped you GA, STUPID just doesn't cover it.

The driver Hires a Taxi.

The owner doesn't pay the driver holiday pay or sick pay, or give him a pension, but he does charges a rental that takes a percentage of his takings and this rental should be at a free market rate.

A £300 a week rental, you have got to be having a fecking laugh ....

Chop a £100 off the above and let the drivers taxi double as his private car and then add the flexibility of his working hours around his family commitments - it's a different ballgame - Muppet

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Sussex wrote:
Maybe we will all just have to work a few hours longer to meet our bills. Thankfully we have that option.


Some down here don't!!! I know quite a few drivers who already work anything up to 18 hrs a day. :shock:

If I ever got anywhere near that situation it would be time to look for another job.


If it got that bad I'd be gone. 18 hours a day is a no no for anyone.


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The brain dead aspect of the argument comes from you Mr Skull.

Firstly, I represented the trade, and delivered what I was asked to by the people who elected me ....................... I have not done that for some time.

Secondly, are you really so stupid to not understand that the people renting the vehicles are doing so to people who can't afford or obtain a plate of their own. If every driver was given a plate I would imagine that they'd have to buy a vehicle, not everyone can do that for many different reasons.

You then go into a rant about recession and then encourage people to go into debt to get their own cab ............................. I say rent off those who have the financial risk and then when the economic climate is better, or indded if the economy ever recovers, come back and try and make an argument.

Do you still not mind paying more for a premium service or waiting in a queue to get it?

I though I saw your name on a loaf of bread the other day ................ but then I realised it actually said Thick CUT.

B. Lucky :D :D :D :D


What a Dummy you are GA.
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The driver is in debt to the owner by paying a rental in an attempt to secure his employment. This costs him more than it would to own and operate his own vehicle. He works the hours to suite the owner. His private car is another cost added to his working arrangement. The driver can't pick an choose his own hours or the security of his employment. He is totally at the mercy of the owner and his little illusion.

No wonder they dumped you GA, STUPID just doesn't cover it.

The driver Hires a Taxi.

The owner doesn't pay the driver holiday pay or sick pay, or give him a pension, but he does charges a rental that takes a percentage of his takings and this rental should be at a free market rate.

A £300 a week rental, you have got to be having a fecking laugh ....

Chop a £100 off the above and let the drivers taxi double as his private car and then add the flexibility of his working hours around his family commitments - it's a different ballgame - Muppet

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:


Some drivers prefer renting Skull, down here there are firms with a good radio circuit but also the rank work is dire, it pays the drivers to rent a car and work the radio insted of being sat on a worthless rank waiting for a punter who's going up the road for £2.00.

Rental down here varies from £205 to £265 depending on who you drive for, like I mentioned the rank work is not worth talking about so a circuit is the only way to go.


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Rentals here are £150 a week all in for a 24 hour car.

If Edinburgh can charge £300 a week and people are paying it then they must be making it ................ simple fact.

People seem to think that the whole world is like their own area and that people should understand every detail of every daily occurance .................... and when they are told that peoples experiences are different they berate their comments as being stupid.

The fact is that, and will always remain, that a person can only charge for something what people are willing to pay ....................... and that goes for the £120 a week office radio rental or the £300 it costs to rent a Edinburgh HC.

Finally, how many of the people renting in Edinburgh are able and willing to buy their own vehicle .............................. because here in Gateshead more people are renting HC now than before deregulation.

B. Lucky :D

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One of our guys had his radiator go on him, Sooo he rented an E7 for Saturday night................ £75 :shock:

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GA wrote:
how many of the people renting in Edinburgh are able and willing to buy their own vehicle
I don't know about willing but none are able, due to restricted numbers. Very few plates have been granted in the last few years. If you want one you buy it for around 50k from the owner.

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GA wrote:
Rentals here are £150 a week all in for a 24 hour car.

Very reasonable.

I know of an area in Sussex where the equivalent rent, for 24/7 on a radio circuit, would be £500 a week. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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cabby john wrote:
One of our guys had his radiator go on him, Sooo he rented an E7 for Saturday night................ £75 :shock:

Well if he only took £100 then :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: is spot on, but if he took £200 then :D :D :D is the order of the day. :wink:

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Some down here don't!!! I know quite a few drivers who already work anything up to 18 hrs a day. :shock:

Maybe those folks then need to wake up and live within their means. :?


I agree.


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GA wrote:
Rentals here are £150 a week all in for a 24 hour car.

If Edinburgh can charge £300 a week and people are paying it then they must be making it ................ simple fact.

People seem to think that the whole world is like their own area and that people should understand every detail of every daily occurance .................... and when they are told that peoples experiences are different they berate their comments as being stupid.

The fact is that, and will always remain, that a person can only charge for something what people are willing to pay ....................... and that goes for the £120 a week office radio rental or the £300 it costs to rent a Edinburgh HC.

Finally, how many of the people renting in Edinburgh are able and willing to buy their own vehicle .............................. because here in Gateshead more people are renting HC now than before deregulation.

B. Lucky :D


Well GA, if your argument holds true, then giving the driver the opportunity to own or drive without a restriction on plates won't make a shred of difference - it would be down to whether or not the driver exercised his freedom of choice. The owner would be competing in a free market. With quality controls being the only restriction to drivers, driving or owning taxis.

The correlation between the supply of drivers, available plates and shifts, hiked rentals and plate premiums, is no accident. The plate “value” comes down to a drivers job security and whether or not the grass is greener on the other side? The financial (80K) reality of becoming an owner, forces him to defend and justify his position relative to his peers.

In short, it’s a pile of pish for a lot of cash .. .. :roll:

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GA wrote:
The brain dead aspect of the argument comes from you Mr Skull.

Firstly, I represented the trade, and delivered what I was asked to by the people who elected me ....................... I have not done that for some time.

Secondly, are you really so stupid to not understand that the people renting the vehicles are doing so to people who can't afford or obtain a plate of their own. If every driver was given a plate I would imagine that they'd have to buy a vehicle, not everyone can do that for many different reasons.

You then go into a rant about recession and then encourage people to go into debt to get their own cab ............................. I say rent off those who have the financial risk and then when the economic climate is better, or indded if the economy ever recovers, come back and try and make an argument.

Do you still not mind paying more for a premium service or waiting in a queue to get it?

I though I saw your name on a loaf of bread the other day ................ but then I realised it actually said Thick CUT.

B. Lucky :D :D :D :D


What a Dummy you are GA.
:roll:

The driver is in debt to the owner by paying a rental in an attempt to secure his employment. This costs him more than it would to own and operate his own vehicle. He works the hours to suite the owner. His private car is another cost added to his working arrangement. The driver can't pick an choose his own hours or the security of his employment. He is totally at the mercy of the owner and his little illusion.

No wonder they dumped you GA, STUPID just doesn't cover it.

The driver Hires a Taxi.

The owner doesn't pay the driver holiday pay or sick pay, or give him a pension, but he does charges a rental that takes a percentage of his takings and this rental should be at a free market rate.

A £300 a week rental, you have got to be having a fecking laugh ....

Chop a £100 off the above and let the drivers taxi double as his private car and then add the flexibility of his working hours around his family commitments - it's a different ballgame - Muppet

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:


Some drivers prefer renting Skull, down here there are firms with a good radio circuit but also the rank work is dire, it pays the drivers to rent a car and work the radio insted of being sat on a worthless rank waiting for a punter who's going up the road for £2.00.

Rental down here varies from £205 to £265 depending on who you drive for, like I mentioned the rank work is not worth talking about so a circuit is the only way to go.


And the drivers choice, how does that figure into your equation?

Freedom of choice is a funny thing, you only seem to notice it when it's missing?



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its bad here in folkestone i work in the office and i have noticed how bad it is

its realy started since new year and we didnt have a rush at easter like we normally do the lads think we have got this for a few years we are deffintley in ressession


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